Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lula's First Barbarian

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The result was delete all. Can be redirect to episode list at editorial discretion. lifebaka++ 16:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lula's First Barbarian

This article was redirected last year but an editor chose to repeatedly restore the article with the justification "These episodes don't need to be reverted, they follow the wikipedia guidelines". He also removed cleanup templates with the words "This was in the episode, according to the wikipedia rules and guidelines they don't count as original research". I, however, see major issues with WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NOT#PLOT, and WP:OR. I could find no useful sources in the first Google pages, and nothing on Google Books and Google Scholar. I fear discussion or redirection outside of AfD will not result in objective results.

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason (didn't check Google for each one though, as I expect similar non-results):

(Episodes with Annie-Award noms are not included for at least having a claim of notability.) – sgeureka ^t•c 08:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep All They're all noteworthy, as all the other wikipedia pages on certain show's episodes. --AKR619 (talk) 10:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you demonstrate the notability of the episodes ("significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject"), I'll agree. Otherwise your comment ignores my deletion rationale and also appeals to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Don't assume that a talk p. discussion would have no useful result. For at least some of this, the amount of information episode list seems to be sufficient, and I at least would have said it on a talk page if asked. DGG (talk) 11:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since AKR619 is the only editor to edit these articles, and since I already know that his views are not supported by policies and guidelines (see his comment above) and that he is willing to push his views through edit-warring (see the article histories), no, discussion would not have lead to any useful results. Especially since no sources seem to exist. No potential => no justification for article => AfD. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per nom. There is no chance of these episode articles being sourced, they're just plot summaries full of OR. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 13:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 20:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all as unsourced OR. As a second option, redirect all to List of Dave the Barbarian episodes and protect the redirects. Stifle (talk) 08:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Dave the Barbarian episodes. Articles essentially consist entirely of OR and would require being rewritten from scratch to meet our standards, even if the episodes were notable, which they appear not to be. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

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Lula's First Barbarian

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